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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I have to disregard the input by Mr. Fixsen per WP:COI, and it's otherwise unanimous that we don't want to keep this around. It can be draftified via WP:REFUND if somebody uninvolved wants to work on it. Sandstein 07:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Fixsen

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I believe this BLP fails GNG and WP:BAND. It realies heavily on primary sources and a WP:BEFORE search finds nothing of significance. Since its creation in 2008, this article has lacked sources HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am a first time user of WP and the subject of this BLP. I did not create the BLP although I did try to edit it for the first time recently, which I now understand was a mistake! Incidentally, something has gone wrong as a paragraph of this BLP wasn deleted yesterday before the deletion process has concluded. I don't think it should be deleted as I am a fairly well-known and influential musician and producer of the nineties and 00s and currently known for my recent film work also I think the information it contains is useful to people interested in some of the bands I worked with (Radiohead, My_Bloody_Valentine_(band), Pixies_(band), Stereolab, Fiona_Apple et. al.)
    Some possible sources which also show that the BLP does not fail GNG:
  1. https://www.factmag.com/2009/10/22/warp-to-release-loneladys-debut-7-and-lp/
  2. https://www.fastcompany.com/1682420/how-a-classic-is-created-my-bloody-valentine-and-the-making-of-loveless
  3. http://film-directory.britishcouncil.org/papagajka-the-parrot
  4. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3901465/
  5. https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/laika/Content?oid=887955
  6. https://www.allmusic.com/artist/guy-fixsen-mn0000543985
  7. https://www.discogs.com/artist/256670-Guy-Fixsen?filter_anv=0&type=Credits
  8. https://www.thedayjob.com/guyfixsen
  9. https://www.soundsbetterwithreverb.com/classic/laika-silver-apples/
  10. https://www.metfilmschool.ac.uk/profiles/guy-fixsen/
  11. Cavanagh, David (2000). The Creation Records Story: My Magpie Eyes Are Hungry for the Prize. London: Virgin. ISBN 978-0-753-50645-5. - Several quotes from me in this e.g. page 359
  12. https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2016/10/mark-fry-interview-dreaming-with-alice.html
  13. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EYlQ2Hsft8QC&pg=PA96&dq=Guy+Fixsen&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi69ZqooLvoAhVKa8AKHbZcBhIQ6AEIPTAD#v=onepage&q=Guy%20Fixsen&f=false
  14. Loveless_(album)
  15. https://www.aginfoconsult.nl/joris/nummernegentien.txt
  16. https://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv06i03.html
The BLP does not fail WP:BAND as my band Laika_(band), released 4 studio albums and one retrospective compilation on Beggars_Banquet_Records which is a major independent label. One album was released in the US by American_Recordings_(record_label) and two by Sire_Records - as this page from Billboard shows: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mBAEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Sire+records+Laika&source=bl&ots=ZjCUFuPV0o&sig=ACfU3U3MkM1jsIRfFKH_rg2mihhM5Nw1WQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjw9IGen7voAhXQi1wKHdMzB6UQ6AEwCXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Sire%20records%20Laika&f=false

Guyfixsen (talk) 19:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Draftify per norms because of WP:COI. It needs to go through via WP:AFC.--KartikeyaS (talk) 06:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NOTRESUME, WP:SPAM, WP:COI, WP:AUTO, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV, WP:MILL, and WP:MUSICBIO. Let's be blunt. In 2008, we would have excused this, but it's 2020, and everybody knows Wikipedia is a charity and an encyclopedia, not the successor to MySpace. The creator of the article admits it is his autobiography! To assert that this spam is otherwise is bullocks. To claim to be a first-time user is not an excuse; in fact, as a new fiduciary, it's worse. The list of possible sources are terrible - not one is reliable. Therefore, there is a lack of significant coverage, the cornerstone of notability. There are lots of musicians, and we can't list every single one. If he had toured around the world, or was a one-hit wonder, or was a member of a famous band, I'd argue to merge or keep. As a failed musician myself, I have sympathy. I have lots of friends who are technicians, but my college classmate does not rate her own article because she used to set up Pat Metheny's synthclavier. Sorry. Bearian (talk) 20:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that a major guideline of WP is to be polite in these discussions and calling someone a 'failed musician' in this tone doesn't really sound like someone who takes reasoned debate seriously. In fact, contrary to what Bearian says, I HAVE toured around the world, several times. Sometimes as a headliner and sometimes with bands such as Radiohead (who also stated at one point my music was a major influence on a well-known song of theirs, "Morning Bell") Fiona Apple and a host of other notables. I was the main engineer on one of the most important albums of the nineties and a prolific key producer in a scene called 'shoegazing'. As I clearly stated that I am NOT the creator of this article. It was created in 2008 and I only became a Wikipedian last week. And how weird to consider yourself an 'editor' and yet not be able to spell the word "B*llocks"... Anyway, I am mentioned in a bunch of articles on WP so I would have thought it would make sense for those links to lead somewhere and if someone wants to put the BLP into order I am sure, given some guidance, I could assist by providing sources that are in keeping with WP protocolsGuyfixsen (talk) 21:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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